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Don’t let the SCV
steal your camp’s assets!
In the wake of yet another North Carolina SCV Camp being suspended and now
the attempted looting of the camp’s assets by Denne Sweeney, some legal
observations from a knowledgeable source might be helpful. What follow are
the remarks of an attorney (and former SCV member) with regard to the
legalities concerned when the SCV (Sweeney’s Collection Vultures) come
knocking on your camp’s door: "If you [the local camp] are incorporated,
the property [camp assets] is yours. If you are an unincorporated
association (which is what you are, if you are not incorporated), the
property is yours.
"Caution: If your camp's governing documents (constitution, bylaws, or
what have you) provide for a distribution of assets to the SCV upon the
camp's dissolution, the SCV might have "standing" to seek enforcement of
those provisions in a court of law, especially if a camp member joined the
SCV in bringing the lawsuit. That is not likely to happen.
"Camps are affiliates of the SCV, no more and no less. They are not
divisions of the SCV, and they are not subsidiaries of the SCV. They are
affiliates. And, as affiliates, they have the right to use the SCV logo
and hold themselves out as "SCV" camps, so long as they comply with
certain conditions. When camps don't comply, they lose the right to use
the SCV logo and hold themselves out as "SCV" camps.
"But do the camps then cease to exist? No. They don't cease to exist.
Their status as corporations or unincorporated associations continues. The
camps that are losing their charters can go right on meeting monthly. All
that is missing is a prior affiliation.
"This is not the United Methodist Church. There is no "Book of
Discipline," governing the disposition of camp property. The SCV can't
change its Constitution for the purpose of taking camp property.
"The SCV is like any schoolyard bully. It will keep taking the lunch money
until someone says "no." Say "no." And if you have to go to court, make
the most of it. Turn the case around and go on the offensive: Seek damages
for the unlawful attempt to take your property.
"Question: If the SCV has a right to seize a camp's assets, doesn't it
follow that the SCV has a duty to assume a camp's liabilities? Is your
camp insured under the SCV's comprehensive liability policy? No, of course
not. "The camps were never a part of the SCV's structure. Case closed.
"One other thing: My former camp (I say "former" because I resigned from
the SCV in March, after 37 years) hosted the 1997 General Convention in
Nashville. I was
co-chairman.
"At the 1995 General Convention in Chattanooga, my fellow co-chairman, and
I appeared before the GEC to render a progress report. At that meeting,
the GEC strongly advised us to (1) incorporate the camp to shield camp
members from individual liability and (2) obtain comprehensive general
liability insurance to shield the camp's assets. The GEC made it clear
that, in hosting the 1997 General Convention, the camp was "on its own."
"A year later, in 1996, newly elected CIC Pete Orlebeke urged me to take
the GEC's advice. In early 1997, we did. We incorporated the Confederate
Preservation Society, Inc., and into that corporation the camp moved all
of its assets. We bought comprehensive general liability insurance, which
we continue to renew, at a cost of about $1,000/year. (We haven't been
spending this money to insure the SCV's assets, I assure you.)
"There was never any question that, in the event of a mishap at the 1997
General Convention, the camp would bear the brunt of any lawsuits. In
fact, the camp contracted in its own name, not the SCV's name. The camp
was "on its own."
"Here's the point: The SCV (GEC) underscored the independent and
autonomous legal status of my former camp. It was up to us to protect our
members and our assets. That's the firmly established precedent in SCV
annals, and it can't be changed on a whim by tyrants."
Note: The writer ends his message with this statement: "If you know of any
camp that needs a fact witness, I would be happy to provide sworn
testimony through affidavits, depositions, and possibly court appearances.
You are authorized to forward this message to any interested camp."
Should any SCV camp (or soon to be former SCV camp) need to contact the
author of the above message, please contact Save the SCV at our email
address. We will pass your information along to the right people.
Also, the North Carolina camp in question was ratted-out to Sweeney by one
of its own officers. We understand that he was the ONLY camp officer still
loyal to the Sweeney regime. After spending two years accusing Save the
SCV supporters of being spies, the SCV leadership is using its own spies
to get camps suspended.
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